Gary: Your wife has triplets. Now somebody comes up to you and explains, tells you your wife has triplets. Is there any way that that piece of information could be transmitted to you in a way that wouldn't be of interest to you? I mean, if they use broken English, bad grammar, if they use sign language.
However it was, if it was, if your wife had unexpectedly had triplets I think you'd be interested in the message. And, and, and that, that's a point, uh, I think it's really important ****.
By the way, someone else asked a question uh, and I, I don't see the letter here, but it's is a really good question and, and I want to answer that because I think I have the answer to a question.
You know one of the things I preach and, and other good marketing people preach is sell to a starving crowd and the, the question was how do you find new starving crowds? Uhm, and uhm, I'll tell you the best way I know is to visit a big bookstand and look at the magazines and you're going to find out that there are magazines that you wouldn't even believe and really.
Now I want to tell you something about magazines that people don't know it. The, like if you're getting mailing lists of magazines newsstands sold magazine mailing list are much more valuable than subscription sold mailing list because you might subscribe to a magazine because you, you got a free. Are you there Mike?
Michel: Yeah, yeah.
Gary: You got a free walkie talkie with it. Uh, or you might subscribe to a magazine you're still getting three years later that you've lost interest but if you're buying a magazine at the newsstand uh, you know that is because you are really interested in it and as equally important you're interested right now. Now for example, there are several magazines on the subject of watches. Some people are just freaks about watches.
Uh, a few years ago there was a magazine phenomena, it's died out now, called “Cigar Affectianato” for all of a sudden people came in heat about smoking cigars and couldn't know enough about them.
The, the things that are, that are kind of surprising for example, uhm, the uhm, I don't want to insult anybody but uh, if you got to hotels now and you watch the television programs, the paid programming 70 percent of all paid programming is adult programming. Uh, I will tell you another thing that's kind of interesting that I didn't know.
You know hip hop music, the kind that that person hates? Do you know that, that the sales of hip hop music is more than all other forms of music combined? More than rock and roll, folk, classical, everything. Hip hop music sells all of them put together. Here's another kind of thing that's kind of interesting. You know these, I don't even know much about them, but you know these games you play with the joystick on your television or you computer?
Michel: Hm mm.
Gary: Do you know that that industry is bigger by far than the entire **** movie and, and music industry and, and the way you can find these things out is you know, any, any time there becomes a large enough group and people and I don't think it has to be very large. Somebody puts out a magazine about it.
And that's a very valuable tip for making money because you can jump on those magazines, probably advertise in them for chump change and if they've got a mailing list, you've got a little gold niche that you can go find. Now, before we close Mike there is something else that I do want to say but I want to have all the questions finished first. So if you've got more let me know.
Michel: I, I, I do. Did you want to finish first or did you want me to answer some of the questions — –
Gary: — – Well, well, no I have something to say toward the, oh, there's one thing I do want to say now that I, uhm, I'm working on one or two newsletters that require a lot of research and those newsletters are about, I am single handedly going to reduce international, uh, intellectual theft on the Internet by a double digit percentage and I am going to reduce Internet theft, theft of my intellectual properties by a hundred percent and I know exactly how to do that and I think you'll be happy to know that probably.
And I also am going to uh, do something, I, I'm going to end what people think they have a free right to say anything they want about anybody on an Internet forum. After I write my newsletters everybody, to be quite frankly, is gonna be scared shitless and rightfully so to do that.
And I want to tell you something and this is not what I'm wanting to say at the end but uh, you know, I've always been pretty visible for a long time in the field of direct marketing. But, lately, my, my visibility has gone up astronomically. Uh, and, I couldn't figure it out because I haven't been putting that many newsletters up or anything and uhm, I.
You know what it is? It's because of the blogs.
And, and I type in Gary Halbert blogs or forums and like there's a thousand groups of people out there who are devoted to talking about me. And I've been going on those blogs and some of the, I've learned some amazing stuff about myself. Uhm, it, you know, uhm, I learned that uhm, I, I think you know Frank Kern. I don't know him. But someone said I had written a long, teamed up with him and written a long scammy letter with Frank Kern. There's a whole big dialogue in it.
I don't even know Frank Kern. I think I met him once at a seminar but I don't even know him. Uhm, also, John Carlton sent me a link I should go to and this web site had a big headline that said “If you're wondering why you haven't heard from Gary Halbert lately it's because he's in prison”.
Michel: Oh yeah, I remember that.
Gary: And, and then there's another one. There's a big dialogue on this thing about uhm, uh. Do you know that I own the, the, the web site, radarpark.com?
Gary: Now, I have no idea what that site is about. I think it's about some kind of device you put on your car where you back up into something and if you're about to hit it, it gives you an audio signal.
But you should have seen the dialogue between this guy who really owned the site and another guy. He doesn't know me, the guy that owns this site, and he's trying to explain to this other guy that he doesn't know me and this guy won't give up. And he says I know this is a Gary Halbert letter. Well, I've never heard of radarpark.com. And then there's something else Mike.
You know, uhm, a guy was writing about how I had an idea at 9:00 in the morning one time and I had turned it into $50, $250 million profit by noon. Now you know how I'm getting old Mike?
Gary: It used to be that every time I got sent to prison or made a quarter of a million dollars in three hours I would remember it. And now I don't even remember this stuff, you know? And what's, what's funny is almost everything written about me is positive, some of it's negative but it's all tortured. It's all convoluted. You know? And uhm, Joe Polish one time said Gary, there's, there's a whole uh, forum about you in Bill Meyers' web site. Don't you want to go read it?
And he couldn't believe I didn't want to go read it. And I said now. And he said why? And I said because these people don't know anything about me. It doesn't matter if they say anything good. You, you know, people say a lot of great things about me but you know what? I know this is hard to believe but I really didn't make a quarter of a million dollars in three hours unless my memory has failed more than I think it has failed, you know?
And the, the, the guy that, that said I was in prison? I called him up and I said this is Gary Halbert. I'm calling from Miami and uhm. He said oh hi Gary. Good to talk to you. And I said well, don't you wonder how I'm talking to you since I'm in prison? He says oh, yeah. I said why did you put this on your website **** prison. He said, well he had bought the franchise rights to, to some newsletter and this was a feature article of the newsletter, okay?
So I, I had a little talk with him and I gave him a picture of what the rest of his life, how, how it was gonna play out be, if I went back to his site in 60 minutes and my name was even mentioned on there, and he was just a young kid and, so I went back an hour later but it was down. But you know I can take almost any kind of sling or insult but I don't want people saying I'm in prison or you know, I had sex with a farm animal or something like that. Or, or even that I made $250 million dollars in three hours and, and I didn't and uh.
Uhm, oh yeah and another thing I want to say because I am researching, so much research is going into this because I think, don't you think that's a pretty important endeavor to end intellectual theft on the Net and stop, stop slander? You know as justice learned in the hand said freedom of speech does not give you the right to yell fire in a crowded theater and I'll tell you another thing.
When you, I'll tell you something that most people don't know. I can write a letter to you Mike and say any negative thing about you that I want and there, there, there won't be any consequences to me because I haven't injured you unless you show that letter to somebody else. However, if I write that letter to you and carbon copy three other people on that you've got me for slander and you can sue my ass off.
The same thing is a forum is not a private dialogue. You can email me if you don't carbon anything, anything about somebody if you want to, to a friend but if you carbon copy it or you say it on a forum, it better be true.
And I'm gonna tell you. There's gonna come a point very shortly in time. Anybody that says anything negative about me that's not true I am going to sue them and ruin their life not because I, mainly because I want to teach you and everybody else how to do it. Well, in the meantime, since I'm doing that I thought I don't want to neglect my readers. And of everything I've ever created that, that people have thanked me for, it's the boron letters. And the boron letters are a collection of letters that I wrote to my son that have been turned into a book. And it's a, it's a 181 page book and I think it sells for $297.00.
Michel: I look at, I'm looking at my copy right now uh, Gary.
Gary: Oh, okay. And those, those, that book has become a, a cult favorite. There are guys who keep that book with them wherever they travel in the world. And anyway, I have uhm, I have a, a strange belief about something and I'll tell you something. I wrote a health report for men that, that would improve their health a lot. I, because I've learned something about that and my secretary Teresa, my trusty assistant for almost 20 years was crying when she typed that and I said why are you crying? She said because there isn't anything like that for women.
So I sold it for $197.00 and I sold a bunch of them and then I thought, you know, if this is helping so many people I said anybody who wants to can reproduce this as long as they don't sell it and use it as a premium or disseminate if the information of that want is that valuable anything I create, I, I have a tendency of giving it away.
So you can, if you search for the Gary Halbert Health Report uhm, you will find it on the net and I actually wrote down the address where it is and I don't have it right now. Kaleb if you can hear me and you can see, and you have that address, you can bring it over, but let me tell you what I'm getting at.
The boron letters? I forget how many letters there are but I'm gonna consider each letter a chapter and starting next Tuesday if you go to my site I am going to put up a new chapter every week, free. You can just go to my site, read the boron letters, Chapter 1, the born letters, Chapter 3.
Next week the boron letters, Chapter 3. And I hope you enjoy them and I hope you download them and so do you have, okay Caleb doesn't have the address, but if you search around for the Gary Halbert Health Report somebody will find it and maybe they can disseminate that address to the rest of your group. And should I say my final thing before I take anymore questions?
Michel: Well I'm going to answer just two very quick questions if I may Gary.
Michel: Two people have asked, asked, one person asked how do you find a starving crowd on the Internet and here's some of the tools I used. First of all your very, very best tool is the Google search engine. But more specifically a tool that Google actually offers. A lot of people know about this but some people don't.
It's called the Google sandbox. If you actually go to Google, I don't actually have the exact address but if you go to Google and you type in Google sandbox it will give you the page at which this is located and what you do is you can actually type in keywords and it will give you a list of not only how many times a particular keyword has been searched but it'll give you variations of that keyword.
And that will give you also a good idea of, of different types of niche markets for that particular category or product. And sometimes the most profitable products are usually the niche market ones. And I'm a big fan of niche marketing.
In fact this is the second tool that I would suggest highly is called Niche Finder and the web site that you can actually, I think there's a free demo but you have to buy the product, it's a software program, it's Nichemarketresearch.com, N-I-C-H-E marketresearch.com.
Gary: Get that Caleb and look up Boker.
Michel: Niche Finder, here's what it does, it will scour all the major search engines for keywords. It will give you variations of those keywords. It will give you in a column format the number of times a specific keyword was searched for and it will give you a number of how many web sites actually cater to that keyword.
So the bottom line is you will not only find a supply but also demand. You want to find a niche that has some kind of supply because when there's a keyword that's been searched for a lot but there's no demand, there's no supply for it maybe that's telling you something. Maybe it's because nobody's buying that particular niche.
But if you have a keywordthat's been searched for, and you can have keywords like 10, 20, 30,000 times searched in the last let's say day or week and there's you know maybe 1,000, 2,000 web sites, it will actually give you a really good idea of supply and demand for a specific keyword and the variations, a whole bunch of variations of the keyword. This is a tool I use a lot. It's called Niche Finder.
The second question, and this is the last one, is some people are asking how do you do teleseminars like you do Michel with Gary. Well, there are two ways that you can go by this.
The first one is that if you actually do a teleseminarlike the one I'm doing right now with Gary there is a wonderful lady, her name is Shannon Seek, she's the one who actually takes care of my teleseminars. And her web site is rentabridge.com and you can actually rent a certain amount of lines from very small conferences to very larges ones like this from you know five people to sometimes 1,000 and you, you, you pay for the seminar of course but you do advertise it and they have a special code like you have pressed yourselves whenever you entered this particular conference room. And then you have people you know who are calling in from a host code number like what Gary and I have done.
And then we give the seminary. You also have maybe discussions. If you have very small seminars, I couldn't do it tonight because we're packed with all our lines busy and I'm actually getting emails right now with people actually begging to get on the call and they can't get in because all the lines are taken, but you have the ability sometimes to do very smaller teleseminars and the ability to open up the lines and then ask questions and all that stuff.
The second way to do this if you're doing it and one person actually asks more specific question as how do you post it online like you did at your web site Michel. Well, there's a service I highly, highly recommend. One of my best friends in this business, his name is Armon Morin. And Armand has a service called Audiogenerator.com, audiogenerator.com.
It's a monthly fee but here's what it does. You can actually record online with a microphone or call a phone number, a 1-800 number, and you can actually record either a small even testimonials because a lot of people use testimonials under cell numbers, that's how it's done. Or a conference like the one that we're doing and it will encode it and put it under server, give you a very small nip it code that you just put on your web site and there you go.
What I do for example very often is when I do very quick phone calls with people then they're not large because you know some of these calls are really, really large. But if we do a very small phone call I have it three- wayed with Audio Generator or I record the call with the service like for example a person who is actually recording the call tonight, his name is Michael McCoy and his web site is actually you can reach him at his email, [email protected]
He will actually record like he's doing right now for me. And what I do is I upload this file to Audiogenerator.com and it will give me a nip it a code that automatically gives me the ability to put it on a web site very, very easily. And anyway, that's, that's all I wanted to say Gary is just because those are questions that I'm getting a lot.
Gary: Okay, well, let me finish up what I want to say. You know I want to go back to the question of writing for different markets and I'm telling you there's no difference. And a lot of people talk about ask well how do you write for a women's market, is it different.
The writing is no different but you really, women are really very different creatures from men and you, you need as best you can to understand the female market if you're working the female market. But I want to make a couple of observations about the differences between males and females at least as they pertain to marketing.
I think women have had terrible obstacles to overcome living in America compared to men and it was not long ago where if a woman worked in an office you know she would be treated sort of like a toy. You know the good old boy would be at meeting and a guy would say hey hun would you get us all some coffee and sugar and then give her a little pat on the behind and send her on her way and that's, that's, that was very demeaning. And that doesn't happen much anymore.
It could cost you $1 million to do that now. And I think that's, that is just because I don't think any, I don't like to see that kind of injustice or indignity perpetuated on any group of people. And, but I'm going to tell you one basic difference between men and women and I'm not trying to be salacious here at all but I'm trying to make a point. And it's been scientifically validated that men think about sex several times a minute and women think about sex far less than that. I think most of the women I know think about it about twice a year but anyway that's just my story.
But anyhow, and I'm going to tell you something that I think almost everything a man says to a woman, you know he says you're into knitting, I like knitting too, can be translated as I'd like to have sex with you. Or if, if a man says gee that's a pretty dress it can be translated into I'd like to have sex with you.
And that is, and I was talking to John Carlton and I said you know how bad it must be to be a woman and know that that's true. And I said I'm going to tell you in a way that you can understand how painful that's got to be. Imagine, and you imagine this Mike that after you meet new people in your life and they're befriending you and you get interested in them and, and in every case you find out what their bottom line is is they want you to write a free sales letter for them. You know I mean that would begin to jade you would it not?
Michel: Oh yeah.
Gary: And that I think is happens to women is that men fake interest in other things and it's basically a lie and we're wired that way. Well I want to, I want to make a comment about that because it can go a couple of ways. You know if you are in the public figure, in the public eye at all, if you, if you're on stage or if you are a strong personality on teleconferences like this, there is, there's a certain type of women that are attracted to what they perceive as a man with a strong personality or the guy that's on top of the crowd or everything.
And I've, I've had that experience at seminars that after I came off the stage that women would be very interested in me and sometimes in a very salacious way and you, what you've always got to remember if any of you guys are doing seminars or teleseminars is that is not indicative that you have a lot of sex appeal because what they're not interested in you, they're interested in something that they believe you represent which is power and intelligence and humor.
And here's the rub with that, what they are seeing you is they're seeing you at your best doing what you do best and if you end up with a relationship with one of those women they're going to find out that you're not so good once you're home and they're living with you for a few days.
You know they're going to find out that maybe you shine when you're standing up in front of an audience you know selling hardware widgets but that when you're off that stage you know, there's a lot of guys that became famous as movie stars and all the women swoon over them and they wonder well why are they swooning over me now and when I could walk down Ocean Avenue and nobody would even notice me yesterday.
And it's because, it's not because of you it is because of phenomena, a sort of cache that, that excites some women you know that's associated with a little bit of fame. And I want to say something about that from the heart because I'm kind of a good-sized fish in a microscopic pool and some of that stuff happens to me and it never goes anywhere. I always shine it on because I know for what it is. I mean I know I am not really an attractive guy to women.
Believe me, women don't come up to me on the street and say hi I'd like to get to know you or something.
But you have one woman on your side and I, I don't know her full name and apparently she was attracted to how she thought I was. But when I started getting the emails and they were kind of salacious I do mind that. And I think every women on this listening to this thing will agree that you know it's, it's not so bad, a man isn't just a slime ball when he asks you to go out but when you say no, no means no.
And I don't know what it is with this woman, I don't know who she is, one of her emails she explained to met hat she was trying to delivery a subliminal message that she was a very sexually interested woman and here's my point, you know saying things, negative things or stuff about me in a forum is one thing but sending me emails because you want to have some kind of relationship with me or an affair with me and you know maybe the first time it's okay but no means no.
For the record I am very much in love and very, very faithful and monogamous to my, to my girlfriend. I think she's wonderful. And I really think that people do not have the right to send sexually oriented material even if they're offering what they think something you would be interested to other people and I would like it to stop.
And I'm not going to identify this woman but I do, I think she'll know who I'm talking about. And I just want to say this, I don't want anymore emails from you, I'm not interested in any women except the one I have, I am totally faithful and no means no. Don't send me anymore emails or I will put some pain in your brain. I'm sorry but that's it.
I don't want anymore of that you know and I, I think that you know I've welcomed banter back and forth between me and other men and me and other women and all of this stuff but there is a line and I don't think that line should be crossed.
And that ties in with what I'm working on on, I guess sending someone an email like that couldn't be construed the same thing as intellectual theft or slander because they're sending it only to you but you know I, I think respect for everybody and dignity should be something that's important. And you know some people just demean themselves by their activities and I hate to see that.
You know these calls and these forums, I'm not making any money from doing this, Mike isn't making any money from doing this and, and you know, and, and some of the other comments you know I just shine them on but they're comments from people like from guys that you know I got one email about a guy bitching about the way Mike asked me questions you know.
Oh they're getting millions of dollars worth of information and me and Mike stumble for half a second and this loser doesn't like the way Mike asked me questions or I stumble for a minute and lose my way and forget to finish a sentence and they call me on that. And you know you need to develop a mindset where you take, you just need to look at the beginning.
You know Ernest Hemmingway said something about women that I think should apply to almost everything in life. He said the best thing I've learned about women, the only thing I've learned is to remember them on the best day that you knew them and forget the rest.
And you know if there's an author that you like you should remember those good books he read and not dwell on the fact that it turned out he was a drug addict you know. It just because that's not a factor in your life. And I don't know if I'm making myself clear or not but you know.huh?
Michel: Yeah you're making yourself perfectly clear.
Gary: Yeah I just, I mean I don't welcome, I'm not interested in sex with anybody besides you know the relationship, outside my relationship. I don't welcome those kind of comments. I don't think they're funny. I don't think that the emails are exciting or anything.
I think it's in really bad taste and I just want to say no means no. And I, I am, I don't think anybody else on the call's going to know who I'm talking about and I don't want them to but I think the person who's doing this will know what I'm talking about and I want it to stop. That's my peace.
Michel: Gary I want to thank you so much. You know besides this we're ending on a bit of a somber tone and I, and I appreciate where you're coming from because that is kind of hard to deal with but I can tell you that in the last two hours you've given so much great information to me anyways and I do hope that you have taken a lot of notes down because Gary has opened up a mass reservoir of million dollar ideas and strategies to me anyways. And I really hope that's the same for you.
Gary: Hey you want to hear something that's kind of funny?
Gary: Listen, listen to this. Mark Joyner decided to retire from the Internet business I guess. And he went and lived for a year in New Zealand. And he came back to the States to do a consulting job for I think a guy named Mike Chin or Tommy Chin or something like that.
Michel: Mike Chin yeah.
Gary: Mike Chin. And they, he was staying at the Mandarin Hotel which is the best hotel, the best five-star hotel in Miami and you know I mean I can see it looking out my window just about. And so we met, we met over at a place called Bayside, the Latin caf‚, and we go to talking. I, I had no idea who Mark Joyner was.
I just heard his name you know. Well it turns out that he is the first real Internet guru or at least one of them and he wrote the first e-book or at least one of them. It was about search engine optimization. I guess it was downloaded over a million times. And he and I got to talking and he was so interested in what I had to say and I was so interested in what he had to say.
You know it was like a high tech guy talking to a guy that's as old as a fossil you know. And he had, he had a satellite linked Internet connected PDA and he's punching as fast as he can as I'm talking into his stylizes and I'm taking notes with a ballpoint pen on napkins and on the back of the notes and all the rest of this stuff. And I don't know if we'll ever do it but we thought I'll bet you if we had a seminarwith me and him together I don't think there's any question on online or offline marketing we couldn't answer.
You know we'd have guys like you there, guys like Carlton there and I, I don't know if we'll ever do that. But I think if we do it'll be, it'll be funny. But I want to tell you something else funny. I'm working with a guy now and he is actually a rocket scientist, an honest-to-god rocket scientist.
He's an engineer who worked for NASA for 20 years up at Cape Caravel. And his wife lives in Miami Beach and is a producer for very expensive commercials like Coca-Cola and stuff. So after 20 years he came, he decided to come down here and get into direct marketing. And he floundered around until he met me and now we've kind of teamed up.
Well, then there's another lady down here that I've written a promotion for if you ever want to see one of my promotions go to zapwrinkles.com. That's appearing in newspaper ads all over the place. It's for a great cosmetic cream called Deception. And well anyway, but I wrote it for Julie Brumlik and she lives for computers and she's wired in you know. And so we end up going to a place called Pink on Collins Avenue down, and it's a real popular eating spot. This is a couple weeks ago.
You know and there's Julie on her wireless computer because you know this is a wi-fi hot spot. And there's Mark with his new PDA you know that's Internet connected you know and can bounce signals back from Mars and tell you what the humidity is in Paris and he's jabbing away on this and my other friend is on a cell phone.
And I said damn you people I'm sitting here with four people and I'm alone you know. You know they're all sitting there in these, these wireless places and all this stuff and you know I, I, I, the way the world is going it's, you know what the biggest thing is you can buy with your credit card now, other credit cards.
You know in South Beach you can buy a parking meter credit card. You can go to public grocery department and use your credit card to buy a parking meter credit card and they got a slot for it. You know you can buy a credit card instead of giving money at a place for sunbath. I used to go to Kinko's and hand them a bunch of papers and say make me ten copies of each of these and some pretty girl would go make it and come back and smile at me, ask me for money, I'd give it to her and go out. You go, you go to Kinko's in Miami now, oh for your convenience you do it yourself now and so you have to go to a machine and put in your credit card that gives you a Kinko's credit card.
Now that's a learning curve for me. Guys like you it would be nothing. That's a learning curve. Then to go over and make a copy you got to use the credit card in the Kinko copy machine. You got to learn how to do that and then you have to learn how to work the Kinko copier you know.
And the, and in my own building, I live in kind of a skyscraper building, now I live in a fairly big apartment but the smaller apartments don't have washers and dryers, you can't put money in the washer and dryers. You have to go down to the mailroom, put your credit card into a machine that lets you use your credit card that lets you work with your washer and dryer. You know and I just, I just want to bitch about this. The world is passing me by. Well no anyway.
Michel: You made a great point because whenever we were talking tonight about people who were, the very small amount of people who really didn't get it and they were bitching and complaining about stuff, even though you might be, I consider you Gary the techno-phobic kind of guy and, and I guess Mike Joyner as a techno-file.
The fact that you were both eager to learn from each other proves what the students should be doing. Whether you know, rather than whining and complaining they should be learning. They should be taking every you know finding the one good thing, the one good idea, whether they have to pay for it, whether it's you know even a free call.
Gary: Yeah but I'll tell you something else by God there should be a law passed that nothing else is allowed to be invented you know. With, there was a comedian, a female comedian years ago said I'm not going to buy anymore music until they promise not to invent anything else you know.
And now they invent, and everything has, and I was in Circuit City today and I'm looking at all this stuff and it's all great but it all has, you know I bought a little, a little tape recorder the size of, of a piece of a pack of gum. It's just great. And I opened the manual and I just went into homage. You know do you know the first thing the manual says, how to set the clock and calendar. I don't want this thing to be a clock and calendar. I just want to tape record stuff on it you know. I don't want my blender to be a CD player you know. Anyway, that's, that's just my own personal stuff but.
Michel: On that note we passed the top of the hour so I have to close it out now. I want to say Gary thank you gosh again you've over-delivered and I want to thank everybody who are on this call too and, and please if you have some comments or any questions maybe I want, I don't want to have a full drawn out question again like I said at the beginning of this call.
But you can send them to me or send them at [email protected] I will forward Gary all the good stuff and just keep the bad stuff for myself. By the way, I did get one question and the guy said you know he'd been a loser all his life, he's not making anything and he'd been to other gurus and he found out I was the source and his just question is he wanted to know the fastest and easiest way that he could become a multimillionaire or even a billionaire you know.
And I decided I'd defer that question to you.
Gary: Well find the most richest bank around, buy yourself a 44 magnum.
Michel: At any rate, folks thank you so much Gary, thank you and we'll see you next time.
Gary: Okay. Goodbye folks, I hope you found it entertaining and substantial. Bye bye.
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